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Version Request - OGS 5.3

Hi there,

if there are no objections, we (LB/TF/CH/KR) would like to release OGS 5.3 sometime next week.
New features include changes to meshing, mapping, support of various new file formats, etc.

Best,
Karsten

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Dr. Karsten Rink
Department of Environmental Informatics
Helmholtz Centre for Environmental Research - UFZ
Permoserstrasse 15, 04318 Leipzig, Germany
Tel: +49(0)-341-235-1067
e-mail: karsten.rink@ufz.de

Dear Karsten,

Is it right you are making major changes since you increment the major version number from 5.2.x to 5.3.x? Could you please provide us more specific information about what you are going to change in the new version? Otherwise I cannot see what will be affected by this changes and whether I should oppose it or not.

Best regards,
Norihiro

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On 17.04.2012 11:50, Karsten Rink wrote:

Hi there,

if there are no objections, we (LB/TF/CH/KR) would like to release OGS
5.3 sometime next week.
New features include changes to meshing, mapping, support of various new
file formats, etc.

Best,
Karsten

--
Norihiro Watanabe
Department of Environmental Informatics

Helmholtz-Zentrum fï¿œr Umweltforschung GmbH - UFZ
Helmholtz Centre for Environmental Research GmbH - UFZ
Permoserstraï¿œe 15 / 04318 Leipzig / Germany
Telefon +49 341 235 1890
norihiro.watanabe@ufz.de / www.ufz.de

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Leipzig
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Leipzig, Handelsregister Nr. B 4703
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig Wilfried Kraus
Wissenschaftlicher Geschï¿œftsfï¿œhrer: Prof. Dr. Georg Teutsch
Administrativer Geschï¿œftsfï¿œhrer: N.N.

Dear Norihiro,

how are major changes defined? Maybe you get a general idea from the
list of files we changed (see attachment ChangesFiles.txt). The
requested more specific information can be found in the attached file
Changes.txt. Do you think these are major changes?
As Karsten wrote in his last mail, we completely changed the mesh
generation and the mapping of meshes to data as well as the generation
of structural models. In addition we included a number of new interfaces
for reading file formats and there are many changes to the GUI
(especially concerning handling of boundary condition / source terms), etc.

Do not hesitate to ask more specific questions.

Best regards
tom

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On 17.04.2012 17:51, Norihiro Watanabe wrote:

Dear Karsten,

Is it right you are making major changes since you increment the major
version number from 5.2.x to 5.3.x? Could you please provide us more
specific information about what you are going to change in the new
version? Otherwise I cannot see what will be affected by this changes
and whether I should oppose it or not.

Best regards,
Norihiro

--
Dr. Thomas Fischer

Department of Environmental Informatics
Helmholtz Centre for Environmental Research GmbH - UFZ
Permoserstraße 15 / 04318 Leipzig / Germany
Tel.: +49 341 235 - 1054 / Fax: +49 341 235 - 1939
thomas.fischer@ufz.de / http://www.ufz.de

Helmholtz-Zentrum für Umweltforschung GmbH - UFZ
Sitz der Gesellschaft: Leipzig
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Leipzig, Handelsregister Nr. B 4703
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig Wilfried Kraus
Wissenschaftlicher Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Georg Teutsch
Administrative Geschäftsführerin: Dr. Heike Graßmann

To make it efficient, please give me a summary of changes because you request changes. Generally I would like to know the following information about any version requests,

(1) what features do you add or change?
(2) why do you change?
(3) where or which module do you change?

I think your last emails don't provide enough information about (1) and (2).

Best,
Norihiro

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On 18.04.2012 10:21, Thomas Fischer wrote:

On 17.04.2012 17:51, Norihiro Watanabe wrote:

Dear Karsten,

Is it right you are making major changes since you increment the major
version number from 5.2.x to 5.3.x? Could you please provide us more
specific information about what you are going to change in the new
version? Otherwise I cannot see what will be affected by this changes
and whether I should oppose it or not.

Best regards,
Norihiro

Dear Norihiro,

how are major changes defined? Maybe you get a general idea from the
list of files we changed (see attachment ChangesFiles.txt). The
requested more specific information can be found in the attached file
Changes.txt. Do you think these are major changes?
As Karsten wrote in his last mail, we completely changed the mesh
generation and the mapping of meshes to data as well as the generation
of structural models. In addition we included a number of new interfaces
for reading file formats and there are many changes to the GUI
(especially concerning handling of boundary condition / source terms), etc.

Do not hesitate to ask more specific questions.

Best regards
tom

--
Norihiro Watanabe
Department of Environmental Informatics

Helmholtz-Zentrum fï¿œr Umweltforschung GmbH - UFZ
Helmholtz Centre for Environmental Research GmbH - UFZ
Permoserstraï¿œe 15 / 04318 Leipzig / Germany
Telefon +49 341 235 1890
norihiro.watanabe@ufz.de / www.ufz.de

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Leipzig
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Leipzig, Handelsregister Nr. B 4703
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig Wilfried Kraus
Wissenschaftlicher Geschï¿œftsfï¿œhrer: Prof. Dr. Georg Teutsch
Administrativer Geschï¿œftsfï¿œhrer: N.N.

Nori, with all due respect, do you expect us to write extensive release notes prior to the version so you can approve those changes?

If you take a look at the official release notes you will see that even final release notes of OGS tend to be ... sparse ... at best (with the exception of Josh's version) and I honestly don't see why think we need to justify our version request without a reason based on substantial facts or concerns.
If you are interested in changes to specific files, please take a look at the changelog Tom attached to his last e-mail.

I would appreciate to have the opinion of Olaf on the general issue because I really don't know how to react appropriately to your request.

--Karsten

Norihiro Watanabe schrieb:

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To make it efficient, please give me a summary of changes because you request changes. Generally I would like to know the following information about any version requests,

(1) what features do you add or change?
(2) why do you change?
(3) where or which module do you change?

I think your last emails don't provide enough information about (1) and (2).

Best,
Norihiro

On 18.04.2012 10:21, Thomas Fischer wrote:

On 17.04.2012 17:51, Norihiro Watanabe wrote:

Dear Karsten,

Is it right you are making major changes since you increment the major
version number from 5.2.x to 5.3.x? Could you please provide us more
specific information about what you are going to change in the new
version? Otherwise I cannot see what will be affected by this changes
and whether I should oppose it or not.

Best regards,
Norihiro

Dear Norihiro,

how are major changes defined? Maybe you get a general idea from the
list of files we changed (see attachment ChangesFiles.txt). The
requested more specific information can be found in the attached file
Changes.txt. Do you think these are major changes?
As Karsten wrote in his last mail, we completely changed the mesh
generation and the mapping of meshes to data as well as the generation
of structural models. In addition we included a number of new interfaces
for reading file formats and there are many changes to the GUI
(especially concerning handling of boundary condition / source terms), etc.

Do not hesitate to ask more specific questions.

Best regards
tom

--

Dr. Karsten Rink
Department of Environmental Informatics
Helmholtz Centre for Environmental Research - UFZ
Permoserstrasse 15, 04318 Leipzig, Germany
Tel: +49(0)-341-235-1067
e-mail: karsten.rink@ufz.de

Dear all,

I'm sorry if you have been disturbed by our last discussion about the version request. As the discussed topic is related to OGS development, I suggest to move it to our developer's mailing-list "ogs-dev" (ogs-devs@googlegroups.com). If you would like to post any messages about the discussion, please post it on "ogs-dev".

Best regards,
Norihiro

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On 18.04.2012 11:09, Karsten Rink wrote:

Nori, with all due respect, do you expect us to write extensive release
notes prior to the version so you can approve those changes?

If you take a look at the official release notes you will see that even
final release notes of OGS tend to be ... sparse ... at best (with the
exception of Josh's version) and I honestly don't see why think we need
to justify our version request without a reason based on substantial
facts or concerns.
If you are interested in changes to specific files, please take a look
at the changelog Tom attached to his last e-mail.

I would appreciate to have the opinion of Olaf on the general issue
because I really don't know how to react appropriately to your request.

--Karsten

Norihiro Watanabe schrieb:

To make it efficient, please give me a summary of changes because you
request changes. Generally I would like to know the following
information about any version requests,

(1) what features do you add or change?
(2) why do you change?
(3) where or which module do you change?

I think your last emails don't provide enough information about (1)
and (2).

Best,
Norihiro

On 18.04.2012 10:21, Thomas Fischer wrote:

On 17.04.2012 17:51, Norihiro Watanabe wrote:

Dear Karsten,

Is it right you are making major changes since you increment the major
version number from 5.2.x to 5.3.x? Could you please provide us more
specific information about what you are going to change in the new
version? Otherwise I cannot see what will be affected by this changes
and whether I should oppose it or not.

Best regards,
Norihiro

Dear Norihiro,

how are major changes defined? Maybe you get a general idea from the
list of files we changed (see attachment ChangesFiles.txt). The
requested more specific information can be found in the attached file
Changes.txt. Do you think these are major changes?
As Karsten wrote in his last mail, we completely changed the mesh
generation and the mapping of meshes to data as well as the generation
of structural models. In addition we included a number of new interfaces
for reading file formats and there are many changes to the GUI
(especially concerning handling of boundary condition / source
terms), etc.

Do not hesitate to ask more specific questions.

Best regards
tom

--
Norihiro Watanabe
Department of Environmental Informatics

Helmholtz-Zentrum fï¿œr Umweltforschung GmbH - UFZ
Helmholtz Centre for Environmental Research GmbH - UFZ
Permoserstraï¿œe 15 / 04318 Leipzig / Germany
Telefon +49 341 235 1890
norihiro.watanabe@ufz.de / www.ufz.de

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Leipzig
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Leipzig, Handelsregister Nr. B 4703
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig Wilfried Kraus
Wissenschaftlicher Geschï¿œftsfï¿œhrer: Prof. Dr. Georg Teutsch
Administrativer Geschï¿œftsfï¿œhrer: N.N.

ciao! you never disturb.
Smash the anarchy, you do great.

Ciao!

F

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On 18.04.2012 15:15, Norihiro Watanabe wrote:

Dear all,

I'm sorry if you have been disturbed by our last discussion about the version request. As the discussed topic is related to OGS development, I suggest to move it to our developer's mailing-list "ogs-dev" (ogs-devs@googlegroups.com). If you would like to post any messages about the discussion, please post it on "ogs-dev".

Best regards,
Norihiro

On 18.04.2012 11:09, Karsten Rink wrote:

Nori, with all due respect, do you expect us to write extensive release
notes prior to the version so you can approve those changes?

If you take a look at the official release notes you will see that even
final release notes of OGS tend to be ... sparse ... at best (with the
exception of Josh's version) and I honestly don't see why think we need
to justify our version request without a reason based on substantial
facts or concerns.
If you are interested in changes to specific files, please take a look
at the changelog Tom attached to his last e-mail.

I would appreciate to have the opinion of Olaf on the general issue
because I really don't know how to react appropriately to your request.

--Karsten

Norihiro Watanabe schrieb:

To make it efficient, please give me a summary of changes because you
request changes. Generally I would like to know the following
information about any version requests,

(1) what features do you add or change?
(2) why do you change?
(3) where or which module do you change?

I think your last emails don't provide enough information about (1)
and (2).

Best,
Norihiro

On 18.04.2012 10:21, Thomas Fischer wrote:

On 17.04.2012 17:51, Norihiro Watanabe wrote:

Dear Karsten,

Is it right you are making major changes since you increment the major
version number from 5.2.x to 5.3.x? Could you please provide us more
specific information about what you are going to change in the new
version? Otherwise I cannot see what will be affected by this changes
and whether I should oppose it or not.

Best regards,
Norihiro

Dear Norihiro,

how are major changes defined? Maybe you get a general idea from the
list of files we changed (see attachment ChangesFiles.txt). The
requested more specific information can be found in the attached file
Changes.txt. Do you think these are major changes?
As Karsten wrote in his last mail, we completely changed the mesh
generation and the mapping of meshes to data as well as the generation
of structural models. In addition we included a number of new interfaces
for reading file formats and there are many changes to the GUI
(especially concerning handling of boundary condition / source
terms), etc.

Do not hesitate to ask more specific questions.

Best regards
tom

--
Dr. Fabien Magri
Tel.: +49 331 288-28723
Fax: +49 331 288-1577